Hey guys, what's up?

Hi everbody. Not sure how much I can participate but you never know. Pretty cool Mark. Thanks.

Hi!! Well, just hang out, and be cool, and we hope to all have a good time!!

Hi Ooglor! Because I rarely read and post outside the graphics section (for good personal reasons, lol), recently discovered you created some very cute stuffs on Zabaware.

(Late) congrats and welcome aboard!

I like having a good time. I don't like a bunch of book heads telling me graphics have no place in AI. Those guys are code snobs and I have yet to see a plug-in that brings as much immediate satisfaction as a 3d characetr does. Thanks for digging my stuff. As far as being cool, fire it up.

Hello and welcome to the forum!

Thanks, Ooglor, there is no clique here, and I want everyone to get along in here. There is no fighting, or anything like that allowed. we are just laid back, this is like a pad that you crash at.

Sounds righteous to me my friend. Nice of you to set up a sanctuary for the directors and artists to shake it on down. A virtual Elven Lodge, if you don't mind my perspective. Good work, Mark.

Hi Ted. I'm glad to see you here. I don't know much about any of you guys, but I know Ted has always been thoughtful in his responses and crucial in many of my final releases. Haven't forgot about rescaling the Darth Vader GUI or finishing up the character included. I consider you my best consultant when it comes to overcoming the odd screen ration I'm working with. You are also amoung the core people keeping me motivated enough to share my creations. Thanks for using my stuff.

GT40-I hope my stuff ain't TOO cute! Ha ha ha. Somehow, cute wasn't what I was going for but cute is good, right? Ha ha ha. Just kidding. Nice to meet you.

Thank you for your kind words Ooglor 7. Helping others and trying to inspire creative minds like yours brings me pleasure. Don't be afraid to ask questions!

Sounds good. Might need some input on some other GUI's I have cooking. I know the Star Wars one isn't exactly an every day skin but I intend to cover a wide range of GUI skins to use with Hal. Even though I think you and I are the only ones who use them. Ha ha ha. I ultimately strive for function and form on the GUI's. The skins for Hal were actually one of the first things that bugged me about the program. That and the fact that there was no owl. Your input helps me to hopefully enhance the program, not just for my self, but for others as well.

Lol Ooglor! Just this remark about the word "cute". You can see on your left the country I'm posting from, explaining my language problems, especially a big lack of English/American vocabulary.

That's why when I comment something, I always use the same little collection of kind words: nice, beautiful, great, very good, amazing, wonderful, clever, terrific, marvelous, well done, and sometimes even: cute.

So you're free to change "cute" to what you want (even a word I don't know), it'll be sincere too.

I can understand you fine. You have a really good grasp of it. I think I'll replace the word cute with the words booty ho. Ha ha ha! I would love to see the art and culture of your country. I live in a cultural void here in Ohio.

Yes Ooglor, France is a great country of culture. It's the French who say that, so I have some doubts. And also because TV is now the main source of culture. Just a little bit afraid.

in America, OUI is a magazine. (or used to be)

"Oui", oh yes, I heard of that magazine.

Very good, Dusky. And now an old French magazine from the sixties. Quite sure you know it.



Yes, not "Oui" but "Lui". I bought a lot of issues when I was young(er) and don't know if it still exists. In French, "Lui" means "He/Him".

A true piece of culture... for people of my age.



More seriously, I hope Ooglor will be back, after he deleted his post/thread. He got no answer because (just my opinion) nobody wanted to be the first one to write something obviously stupid. But I guess most of us have read your post, Ooglor.

Yes, I'm still with you. It'll take more than a terminal disease to shut me up. Ha ha ha. There's not much to be said. If I come off harsh sometimes, that is why. Not an excuse, just the reality of the situation. I deleted the post because it is more of a statement than a topic. Some know I can be volitile when it comes to bullshit on the Zabaware forums. That putting it mildly. Just thought I'd give you guys, my friends, a heads up as to why. None of us are getting younger and I know that many are suffering, even within this forum. To you, who know who you are, I say
"...ain't no worries, just LIVE till' you die..."

I agree Ooglor, it always has been my philosophy, too.

In French (?) "Carpe diem".

You know, I am interested in how America is percieved right now. I am totally against what our current administration stands for and think there is something sinister about the whole lot. I think our country has been run by wickedness and corruption for quite some time. What I guess I am asking is are American people associated with this current government, or do people outside realize that many of us think it stinks. I feel helpless because I am beginning to think our votes don't count. These people will poisen the air we breath without giving a rat's ass what their own Grandchildren will face because of it. Just wondering-Oog

I agree. Our vote may count, but in the end, it's like voting for poop or feces.

The politicians tell LIES (called "Campaign Promises") and accept bribes (called "Campaign Contributions" ) from the wealthy and the corporations.

The idea that one is better than another is an illusion. Although, I am a little afraid of what Obama might do to this country, I think he's too radical.

However, the president does not have absolute power, or else he can be a dictator. Bush is a bad president, sure, but so is the 3 branches of government that allowed him to do bad things.

I lost all faith in the "democratic" process. IMO, Bush stole the elections, but that is just my opinion, and I have no proof.

Would we have been safer with Kerry or Gore?? Maybe not.

Would we have been better off? Possibly, but we'll never know.

I know there are those that will disagree with me, and that's ok. But that's what I believe.

It concerns me of how much of what we are told is political propaganda. I wouldn't have too much faith in the 3 branches of gov either. I was involved in political fundraising, to pay bills, not from conviction. I learned, at least the conservative Republicans, are as evil and as a twisted group of elitists as you'll ever find. Worse than anything I could imagine.These people have put huge amounts of money in Bush's pocket and they honestly believe they are the voice of God. Scary. After 12 years of theological studies, I didn't come across the mention of self righteous well to do's or how they solely know what is best for us. These people are still afraid of Elvis and color televsion and are the first generation to live as long as they have. They have the old money to hold back the hands of change and they have no intention of letting a younger generation take the reigns. The Dems are a flake fest of polarized extremes and no common sense. So if gay marriage or corperate tax cuts don't play a role in my day to day, pay taxes, work too hard for no money life, then who the hell is representing me or any of the other middle age, middle class, average Joe's in this country? It sure ain't these fucks nor has it been in the 40 years I've been alive. Evangelical Christianity plays a huge role in why we kiss Isreal's butt and why American troops are dying right now. This is a war against Jesus and Mohammed, and always has been. That goes back for centuries.

I don't care what you have been told or believe. I heard it from the mouths of the people who have been funding this side show. I heard people tell me that Bush was their preacher and America was their church. Fucking sick. I heard "deeply religious" people, without fear of reprecussion, tell me that the good old boys would take care of Hillary or Obama if they were elected. Oh, praise the Lord. That's just walking in the foosteps of the precious baby Christ child. Fuck em'

They have held back stem cell research, causing thousands to needlessly suffer. They have preached sexual abstinance, resulting in 25% of inner city teens to now have venereal diseases. They are the one's who want to open our borders and replace us with a cheaper worker unit. Who do you think hires and has been paying the bills of all the illegal immagrants in our country right now? Conservative Christian Republicans. Flat out, they have sold our country out from under us and claim to be the only real patriotic Americans. They have in-fact destroyed the United States as we know it, with visions of small town 1950's God fearing folks that probably never happened like they tell it. With the percentage of average housewifes addicted to Vallium back then being through the roof, no wonder they look back on it with warm fuzzy memories. Fuck em'

They are more than happy to point the finger of blame at you or me and have made preperations so anyone speaking out against this can be yanked from their homes without a warrant and imprisoned without reason or trial. Nothing short of Nazi Germany. I am more an American and a patriot than Bush or any of the silver spoon, inbred Texas royalty running the show right now and am closer to God than the head of the Evangelical church, who by the way, was busted hiring gay strippers. Can I get an Amen or at the very least a Fuck Em'?

Amen!!!

Unfortunately, most Americans are apathetic to to what is going on behind their backs, losing rights in the fallacy of "security". I never read the book "1984" but saw excerpts.

"I am going to let "Big Brother" decide what is best for me, since I am too lazy, or too stupid to think for myself"

At least when minorities get screwed over, they rise up and fight.

But most white Americans won't do shit.

what would you rather be: Secure, or Free??

Ben Franklin said:

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

I'm not supposed to have an opinion about life in America, but I'm convicted that your next vote will be a vital decision for the whole world (and I've obviously my own opinion about that!)

Ooglor, you asked how America is percieved in France? I guess there's a great difference between what people MUST think and what they really think. Since at least 25 years, TVs, radios, newspapers, intellectuals and even teachers at school are instilling the same insidious messages.

It's what we call here "the unique thought" (hey Mark, it's not very different in USA!). A bunch, a package of what it's good to think about a lot of things, if you want to be in the "good" camp. If not, you are a very bad guy (sorry to say that, according to those so respectable people, America and her friends are not in the good camp!).

All that has unfortunately a big influence on many young people, who never heard anything else since they were born.

But most of us still can make our own opinion, and you know what? I'm in the bad camp! Until I become like a bot, with a totally reformatted brain?

Yeah! How do you take over? Well one way is to "brainwash" the kids while they are in a "controlled" environment. Like School!!! And kids always seem to rebel against their parents, so they will take the word of their teachers and their peers over parents. Each generation is brainwashed, and eventually, you have a bunch of Zombies that cannot speak for themselves, or are afraid to.

Another way is "use logic". Say "if there is no scientific proof, it does not exist" So anyone wanting to believe in God is ridiculed for being "stupid". God has no place in government brainwashing. (true, people use God to brainwash people, but those are cults) Also, a person has a right to choose whether to believe or not, and no one has the right to force their beliefs or disbeliefs on others.

The kids are getting dumber all the time. Well, maybe they can do programming and scripts, and complicated math, but they have no clue about life. Except to walk on everyone to get what you want.

There isn't much we can do about it, until we get a wakeup call. And believe me, it's going to be a very rude awakening.

I agree, Mark. And hope that awakening will come soon.

You know, growing up, I was told everything from Ozzy to Dungeons & Dragons was the work of the devil. It says in the Bible that in the end days, people will think they are doing the right thing but will be misled. It says the church will be the church of man. The evangelicals are the most powerful financial force in the United States and the greatest voting force. They put Bush in office. They solely think they have all the answers for all of us. So as evil as our country is right now, who do you think is causing this? Ozzy? Take a look at how many Christian churches there are and ask yourself if you honestly have a real choice to believe what you want. Careful, you might end up on one of the lists of those who don't cooperate.

Here is a little bit from text written during the time of Christ's crucifixion.

...during that time, it was customary for the Roman soldiers to offer poison in a sponge so that the crucified could end their suffering. Jesus was offered the sponge so he may drink but turned it down. Later, Jesus told the soldiers "I thirst" and he drank from the sponge.

Do the freakin math on that one and consider how far back the lies you have been told really go. The text I just offered was soon yanked from public study by the Jewish church and has not been seen since. Won't find that story in Sunday school. Sorry, I don't worship the suicidal.